Dr. Brené Brown has been an inspirational voice for empowerment and self-help advice for over two decades. Brené’s research has spanned topics like courage, vulnerability, shame, and empathy, just to name a few. Brené’s latest book, Atlas of the Heart, unpacks 87 emotions and experiences that define what it means to be human.
Brené recently chatted with Glennon Doyle on her Cadence13 podcast, “We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle,” for an insightful, 2-episode conversation: part one, “How to Know Ourselves & Be Known by Our People” is 56 minutes long. Part two is titled “On Holding Boundaries & Facing Our Fear” and runs for 45 minutes. We recommend streaming both episodes in chronological order.
Glennon released the book, Untamed, at the pandemic’s start. Her book and podcast have become resources for many as the world is navigating times of uncertainty. Glennon wants to empower listeners and reminds us we can get through the most challenging of times. Glennon’s outlook lines up with Brené teachings, and Glennon explained how reading Atlas of the Heart impacted her, as she believes that connection and understanding are key healing tools.
In part one of the duo’s conversation, they discussed Brené’s new book and tools on more effective communication techniques. Brené identifies what differentiates stress mode from being overwhelmed, and shares coping tips for listeners. Brené explores survival strategies, how these can originate from childhood and our families, and explains how these engrained patterns can help or impede our lives, wellness, and relationships.
Brené shared insight on how we can enable our kids to experience belonging. On a personal note, Brené unpacks her decision-making process, and on this episode, shares the question she often asks herself, a technique that has changed her life.
In part two of their conversation, we learn effective boundary-setting methods. Brené and Glennon run through a helpful roleplaying scenario with family members for practice, that can be useful during holiday season get-togethers.
Brené said that “a love affair with the thing you’re most afraid of” is a bold move that will alter your life forever and help you face your fears. Later in the episode, Glennon candidly asks Brené “about how a woman’s work is defined and received in the world compared to her male counterparts.” They investigate feelings like grief, loss, and decision-making. Lastly, Brené answered some “rapid fire” questions from the Pod Squad and tackled topics like tattoos, Brené’s fave places, and emotions.
If you’d like to hear more from Brené, check out her weekly Spotify Original podcasts, “Unlocking Us with Brené Brown” and “Dare to Lead.” Brené has released several books, five of which are New York Times bestsellers including: Dare to Lead, Braving the Wilderness, Rising Strong, Daring Greatly, and The Gifts of Imperfection. This year, Brené co-edited You Are Your Best Thing: Vulnerability, Shame Resilience, and the Black Experience with activist Tarana Burke.
Brené is currently a professor at the University of Houston and the Huffington Foundation Endowed Chair at The Graduate College of Social Work. Dr. Brown additionally teaches at The University of Texas’ Austin McCombs School of Business.
Check out new, weekly episodes of “We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle” for similarly inspirational conversations, wherever you listen to podcasts.